GAME THREAD - Ravens/Browns

[Sephy]

Hey guys,
Gametime is 3 hours away, but I wanted to put up the thread. I'll be covering PBP, but I'll be back potentially slightly after 1, so if someone could be so kind as to help the out of towners until I get in, that would be great.

GO RAVENS!!!! :jester:

[Dont Know]

from Gameday (http://www.baltimoreravens.com/gameday/)

Baltimore Inactives

5 K Rhys Lloyd
22 CB Samari Rolle
34 RB Cory Ross
38 RB Mike Anderson
75 T Jonathan Ogden
90 DT Trevor Pryce
91 LB Edgar Jones
10 QB Troy Smith - 3rd quarterback

93 Dwan Edwards will start for 90 Trevor Pryce.
35 Corey Ivy will start for 22 Samari Rolle.
78 Adam Terry will start at LT for 75 Jonathan Ogden.
73 Marshal Yanda will start at RT.

Cleveland Inactives

15 P Dave Zastudil
23 DB Gary Baxter
35 RB Jerome Harrison
61 OL Isaac Sowells
71 OL Kelly Butler
81 WR Travis Wilson
99 DL Orpheus Roye
11 QB Ken Dorsey - 3rd quarterback

78 Ethan Brooks will start at NT for 92 Ted Washington.
91 Shaun Smith will start for LE 99 Orpheus Roye.
5 Scott Player will punt for 15 Dave Zastudil.

[phatboy]

Just saw them cut to a scene of Boller warming up on CBS and the feed was HD. Maybe we will get lucky

[Sephy]

Hey guys, I'm here and ready to PBP!

[Sephy]

Cribbs returns to the 46.

[Sephy]

1st, Jamal swallowed up at the line, no gain, maybe a half yard.
2nd and 10, playfake, man in on Anderson, complete to Jurevicius for 9.
3rd and 1, give to the upback Vickers for 5 and a first.

[Sephy]

1st from the Ravens 40, Jamal met at the line, gain of 2.
2nd and 8, Jamal for 6, a Raven jumped offside. They'll take that.
2nd and 3, Jamal met at the line, gain of 1.
3rd and 2, Reed got mixed up, complete to Winslow, who benefitted form the pick on Reed down to the 8.

[Sephy]

1st and goal from the 8, fade to Braylon, way overthrown.
2nd, Anderson pressured, steps up and shovels to Braylon for 6.
3rd and goal from the 2, caught by Jurevicius, touchdown. Spikes the ball at Ray, no penalty called. Typical NFL refs.

[OriAl]

Nice of the defense to not show up for today's game. Didn't even wait for the fourth quarter today. :(

[Sephy]

Figurs to the 23.

[Sephy]

1st, complete to D-will on the skinny post for about 15. First down!

[Sephy]

1st down from the 39, play action, ball overthrown for Heap, almost to the safety playing center field.
2nd, complete to Wilcox in the flat going left, gain of 2. Ball thrown very high.
3rd and 8, shotgun, incomplete to D-Will who had someone hanging all over him. PI is called.

[darb72]

Why is it we don't Lloyd play? The guy has a really strong leg and Stovers kicks tend to be on the short side.

[Sephy]

1st from the 47, Willis up the middle for 5.
2nd and 5, Willis up the middle from the singleback, gain of 2.
3rd and 3, complete to Clayton who found an open pocket, then catches and run for 19 to the 27 yard line!

[darb72]

Jamal might have more yards rushing this season, but I can tell a big difference in the running game with Willis in there. He actually works well in the hole and can pick up short yardage unlike the Tap-Dancing Bear.

[Sephy]

1st from the 27, ball thrown RIGHT to Leigh Bodden, who is tackled and fumbles, but it goes out of bounds. Horrible decision. Stared down his receiver and had no chance.

[darb72]

Another great read and throw by McNair. Hits the defender right in the numbers.

[Merlin]

McNair does not look sharp -- a couple of times he has slipped in his sets -- think the groin is still acting up :(

[Sephy]

God, it was even worse on replay. Horrible read on the field.

[Sephy]

1st from the 22 for Cleveland, deep for Braylon who beat C-Mac by 20 yards, TD Browns.

Unbelievable.

[Merlin]

Mac wasn't within 10 yards of that play -- DAMN!!!

[darb72]

Wow. Simply wow. Long TD pass to Braylon Edwards because McAlister bit on the route. I'd be a lot madder about it if C-Mac wasn't usually so good.

[Merlin]

Figurs better return it for a TD

[Sephy]

Thought the last 2 weeks would be a wakeup call..apparently not.

[Sephy]

Figurs returns to the 26.

[Sephy]

1st, McGahee spins, breaking 2 tackles and gets 11. First down.

[Sephy]

1st, Willis off tackle left for 2.
2nd and 8, Willis sees daylight, and gets 14 and another first.

[Sephy]

1st from the Browns 47, Musa in, complete to D-Will for 12 and another first.

[darb72]

And a delay of game for McNair. Holy crap this guy is getting worse.

[Merlin]

has someone given McNair a tranquilizer -- this calm, glazed look in his eyes as we get a delay of game is just maddening!!!

[StingerNLG]

What in the hell is going on here??? I'm watching the game on our boat on a little TV. I figured it was the TV. This is disgusting!!!!

[Sephy]

1st from the 35, Musa pushes forward for 3-4, a Brown pushes down someone really late, but no flags called.
2nd and 7, delay of game.
2nd and 12, McNair pumps, then throws for Clayton, incomplete. Behind him. Flag down. No foul. Apparently an expected chop block.
3rd and 12, Ravens take a TO.

[darb72]

46 yarder by Matt Stover is no good.

[Sephy]

3rd and 12, shotgun, complete to Mason for 9. Another not trying play. D-Will looked like he was coming open.

Stover on from 46, no good. Awful kick. Worst FG I've ever seen him attempt.

[Merlin]

TMQ would have told us we were idiots to not go for the first down on fourth and short -- this conservative shit is ridiculous!!

[psuasskicker]

About as ugly a start as can be imagined. This 1st Q can't end fast enough.

- C -

[StingerNLG]

Holy shit, and even Stover is missing!!

If McNair can't get this under control and now, its time for Kyle to play.

[Sephy]

1st from the 36, Jamal up the middle for 5.
2nd and 5, Cribbs takes the direct snap, gain of 2-3 on the run.
3rd and 3, PICKED BY REED, and he gets to the 25!!!

[psuasskicker]

Finally something goes our way. Dammit Reed scares me when he carries the ball...he holds it SO far away from his body...

- C -

[Sephy]

1st from the Browns 24, Willis gets 5 going right. That will end the first quarter.

[gwidion]

CMON! we need a touchdown off this turnover!

[Sephy]

2nd and 5, slant to Mason to the 11 and another first down.

[darb72]

We need a TD here badly. Swing ol' Moe back in our favor.

[Merlin]

If the announcers can see how McNair's groin is affecting his throws so should our coaches upstairs -- he should be replaced with Boller for health reasons

[Sephy]

1st and 10 (from the 11), I form, way overthrown for D-Will. McNair can NOT set his body.
2nd, Musa for 3.
3rd and 7, complete to Mason to the 3. Mason's YAC try cost us a first, though it would have been iffy.

Stover on again, and BARELY made it.

14-3 Browns. Really needed a TD there.

[darb72]

Anybody else have a flashback to SB XXXIV

[Merlin]

What we have here gentlemen is a failure to execute -- this redzone ineffectiveness is depressing

[Beerracuda]

This is gonna be a long hard ride today, fellas....

Not liking this game one bit... and our defense, or lack thereof, is of real concern to me.

[Sephy]

Good kickoff from Stover, but Cribbs gets to the 29.

[psuasskicker]

We are so awful in the RZ...

- C -

[darb72]

Ok, we need another TO and hopefully the defense will score with it cause I don't think our offense can.

[StingerNLG]

We are NOT going to win this damn game with field goals.

[Sephy]

1st, Jamal up the middle for about 2. Met strongly.
2nd and 8, Jamal gets a huge hole, goes for 28, and goes down to the 45. Need to seriously regroup and soon.

[Merlin]

NO guts on the play calling

2 fourth and shorts with decisions for field goals each time down by 14 - 0

Billick is unimaginative

[Beerracuda]

Anyone doubt that we miss Trevor badly?

[drjcc]

Boy this team misses Trevor Price

[Sephy]

1st, Jamal for 2 up the middle again.
2nd and 8, Wright benefits from a huge block, and gets inside the 25.

[Sephy]

1st from the 24, Jamal for 1, maybe 2.
2nd and 8, incomplete for Braylon, Anderson held the ball for awhile.
3rd and 8, ball thrown way out of bounds. Finally a stop.

Dawson's FG is good. 17-3. We need TDs, and NOW.

[Sephy]

Fumble on the tackle by Figurs, and the Browns recover.

Un..fucking..believable.

[Beerracuda]

And now Figurs fumbles the KO, Cleveland ball.

Should I even bother to watch the rest of this "game"?

[Sephy]

1st from the 31, Jamal for 4ish.
2nd and 6, Jamal for 1-2.
3rd and 4, no pressure, but the pass is incomplete for Winslow.

Another Dawson FG try... NO GOOD! Wide left!

There is a flag down, and the Browns are celebrating. OFFSIDES. FIRST DOWN. UNBELIEVABLE

[Sephy]

1st from the 20, flag down on the snap, incomplete for Vickers. Illegal formation.
1st and 15, Jamal stopped for a half yard gain.
2nd and 14, complete to Winslow for 11-12 yards.
3rd and 3, Wright gets a block and gets to the 2 yard line.

Fuck me.

[Sephy]

1st and goal from the 1, no gain for Jamal.
2nd and goal from the 1, TO from someone.

[Beerracuda]

Jesus H Christ, someone wake me up when we get to San Francisco!!!

This is disgraceful. Totally unprepared for this game, and for that, there is no excuse!! Every player and every coach should be held accountable!!!

[StingerNLG]

Its like we have no will to win this game.

[Sephy]

2nd and goal from the 1, Jamal stopped for no gain, THEN THEY CLAIM HE GOT IN. NO CHANCE. HE DID NOT GET IN.

[Sephy]

Billick threw the flag and they didn't look at it. He's arguing right now. They claim it wasn't thrown in time.

[Merlin]

Even Billick can't make a correct play

[Sephy]

Yo to the 20.

[Sephy]

Horrible call on Jamal, btw. No chance that ball got in.

[Sephy]

1st from the 21, pitch to Willis, gain of about 5. Flags down. Offensive holding. Defensive holding as well.

Repeat.

[Sephy]

1st and 10, Willis stiff arms 2 guys going left, then completely reverses his field and gets all the way to midfield!!!

UNBELIEVABLE RUN. Maybe the best I'v eseen from a Raven.

[Sephy]

1st from the 49, no gain from Musa, and a personal foul facemask adds to it.

[Sephy]

1st from the Browns 36, McNair's pass deflected at the line.
2nd, blitzer hits Musa at his legs, no gain, maybe 1.
3rd and 10, Ravens take a TO.

[Sephy]

3rd and 10, complete to Heap for 15 and a first.

2 minute warning.

[RavensNTerps]

McNair needs to sit. He can't keep playing like this...no velocity on his throws, which takes away literally 2/3 of the passes that a QB can throw. If he can't step in, get out, don't continue to hurt the team.

[psuasskicker]

Boller-time second half.

- C -

[Sephy]

1st and 10 from the 21, complete to Heap for 9.
2nd and 1, Willis pulls a Jamal, gets no gain.
Or apparently they got a first? What the hell>?

[Sephy]

Ravens waste another TO. Billick is bitching about the questionable down situation forcing the TOs.

[Merlin]

McNair sucks

[Sephy]

1st and 10 from the 11, over the top and overthrown for Wilcox who was double covered. Would have had to been perfectly thrown.
2nd, another fade to D-Will way overthrown. Had it been thrown correctly, easy TD. Get McNair the fuck out of there.
3rd, Pool knocks away the pass for Heap, would have had no chance anyway. Another defender was back there.

Stover's FG is good, 24-6. Boller MUST go in in the 2nd half.

[Beerracuda]

Horrendous play calling in the red zone..... fucking fade patterns.....

Man, someone needs to beat the crap out of Billick......

[psuasskicker]

Boller!

[Sports Steve]

McNair throwing very poorly.

If he's hurt he needs to get out of the game he's hurting the team.

Don't try to be a hero.

[psuasskicker]

Oh please Beer...play calling was fine. McNair throws that fade on target it's 6 pts, DWill had his two men beat BAD.

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[Sephy]

Cribbs to the 26.

[Beerracuda]

Oh I'm not saying that McNair was on target. I would've rather seen a few dinks and dunks on that series in the RZ. Maybe get out of the pocket once. Maybe a short pass to McClain.

[camdenyard]

The FG to make it 24-6 was really a smart move. We needed 7 there, at all costs.

And McNair looks like he's all arms. He is not all there, I don't mean just physically. Get Boller in there.

[Beerracuda]

This game reminds me of the game against Tenn last year. Let's hope it ends the same way.

[RavensNTerps]

They need Boller.

We threw one "fade" pass there, and that was to DWILL which wasn't really a traditional fade anyawy, but should have been a TD.

The problem is, McNair doesn't have the arm (or groin, I guess) to fit a tight ball on the seem routes which is killing us in the red zone. KILILNG US. 3/4 of the field is taken away b/c McNair can't make the throws in the redzone. Its tough to watch.

[Sports Steve]

Wonder what the Brown Backers are saying on their chat line ??????????

[Big Bird]

Yeah, I can see it now. Boller comes in, we get some scores, then he throws a pic, we lose and fans blame him for the loss. It has happened consistently.

Common Blackbirds..... Do Somethin!!!

[Merlin]

Will be very interesting if Boller comes in the second half and our offense lights a fire; don't want a QB controversy -- but this team is painful

[Brandon]

This shit is unacceptable..PERIOD!

[Beerracuda]

Well, whoever is QBing the 2nd half, we need a score right from the opening possession, since we get the ball first. Shut us down on the 1st possession, and you might as well turn out the lights. Sorry to sound like such a pessimist, but that seems to be the way this game is going.

[Brandon]

It's obvious McNair is not over the groin issue or at least able to be effective with it. His throws are horrendous.

[Sports Steve]

We can't lose another division game . The schedule is only going to get harder. This is suppose to be our easy part of the schedule.


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[StingerNLG]

Will be very interesting if Boller comes in the second half and our offense lights a fire; don't want a QB controversy -- but this team is painful

Honestly, at this point there might NEED to be a QB controversy. This is pathetic. Bet me McNair starts the second half.

There needs to be a defensive controversy too! 24 points? Are you fucking serious??

[camdenyard]

This game reminds me of the game against Tenn last year

It reminds me more of the TEN game in 2005.

[Sports Steve]

Honestly, at this point there might NEED to be a QB controversy. This is pathetic. Bet me McNair starts the second half.

There needs to be a defensive controversy too! 24 points? Are you fucking serious??

The defense isn't what is once was but we still need an offense to help the defense out.

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[BertJonesMyHero]

I hate Brian Billick.

[Beerracuda]

It reminds me more of the TEN game in 2005.

Well yeah, it does that too. I'm trying to be optimistic, despite my pessimism.

:eyes:

[RockyMRaven]

I'm glad to see a game thread here on this board. I was just on the YBR board, but had to leave after reading how much juvenile stuff there is there.

Looks like McNair is going to be starting the second half, though. That could be bad news. Let's see. I agree that if we don't score a TD on this drive, we're toast.

[Sports Steve]

I hate Brian Billick.

The players still have to play. Easy to blame Billick but who do you want to coach ????

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[RockyMRaven]

The players still have to play. Easy to blame Billick but who do you want to coach ????

:jester: :jester:

That's what a lot of people seem to be missing.

[Sports Steve]

That's what a lot of people seem to be missing.

AMEN

[Merlin]

McGahee has been consistent

We have to go for it on fourth down if necessary so we can keep a balanced offense and get the TD -- no substitutes!!

[Sephy]

Sorry, missed it. I'll pick up at the Browns 30.
1st, Musa goes for no gain.
2nd, Sypniewski bobbles the ball for 3 hours, gets it in, and gets 7.
3rd and 3, complete to Mason for 5 and a first.

[Sports Steve]

Mcnair not looking off receivers

[Sephy]

1st, Willis gets 2, but McClain picks up a hold.
1st and 20, Ravens pick up the blitz well, and the pass is underthrown and incomplete for Heap. Was tipped as well.
2nd and 20, ball thrown on the slant RIGHT to the defender, and luckily dropped it. What a fucking awful throw.
3rd and 20, underneath to Mason for 6. Of course.

[Sephy]

41 yard try from Matt, completely wide right. Awful day overall. Billick didn't have this team ready.

[Merlin]

this is absurd

[Sports Steve]

Stover just missed second FG attempt

[RockyMRaven]

Even Matt is missing today! Something needs to change.

[Brandon]

Well, this game is in the bag. You know when Stover is even off today, that's it's just a bad omen.

[StingerNLG]

That throw to Clayton wasn't even CLOSE to Clayton!! It's a damn good thing that wasn't picked off too!!

It's Boller time. Enough of this shit. McNair has ZERO chance of making a comeback at this point.

The holding call on McClean didn't help, but two bad throws also doesn't.

[Sports Steve]

Well, this game is in the bag. You know when Stover is even off today, that's it's just a bad omen.

Not looking good

[Beerracuda]

Where's that fork?

Done. Kaput.

Horribly unprepared for this game, and there is NO excuse for that!!!

[Sports Steve]

Half of the 3rd quarter already gone.

[Sephy]

1st from the 31, Jamal for 1-2.
2nd and 8, PA, complete to Braylon for 13.

[Sephy]

1st from the 46, Jamal for 2-3.
2nd and 8, complete to Heiden who is immediately met by Dawan. Gain of 7.
3rd and 7, caught by Winslow and down inside the 5. Flag down. On the Ravens, illegal contact.

This game is over.

[camdenyard]

Horribly unprepared for this game

What else is new.

I'm so goddamn tired of this team preparing for Cleve like a high school team.

[BertJonesMyHero]

The players still have to play. Easy to blame Billick but who do you want to coach ????

:jester: :jester:

That is baloney. I'm tired of watching this team be not prepared. Just because "we" don't know who we would hire, doesn't mean there are not plenty of people ready to be head coaches.

[drjcc]

Why do you all say they were horribly unprepared? Maybe they just PLAYED bad

[Sephy]

I was pretty disgusted, I couldn't call it, but a nice stand to hold the Browns to the FG. Still in this game, but need a TD NOW. If not NOW, the game is really over.

[Sports Steve]

That is baloney. I'm tired of watching this team be not prepared. Just because "we" don't know who we would hire, doesn't mean there are not plenty of people ready to be head coaches.

Billick can't make the plays for the players.

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[camdenyard]

Why do you all say they were horribly unprepared? Maybe they just PLAYED bad

One leads to the other, always has, always will.

[Merlin]

so will we ever run the no-huddle?

[Brandon]

I usually don't get into this QB debates and stuff, but why not put Kyle in now. It's not like McNair has been all effective today.

[camdenyard]

so will we ever run the no-huddle?

No, and we will always act like we have more time than we do, we will waste our timeouts, we'll forget about the play clock, and the 2-minute drill will always be a joke.

[drjcc]

I don't believe that. This isn't college these are pros. They don't need some rah-rah crap. So far today Cleveland has not fooled anyone. That's what I think unprepared is. I mean did Gregg and Ngata and Lewis etc stop being good players. I think they are being out played TODAY. It's up to them to step forward and try to change that today. Coaching staff can look to see if there are any SYSTEM breakdowns thats what they are responsible for.

[Big Bird]

I am as loyal as any fan. We may be expecting too much from them. When you look at the games thus far this year, its easy to say we should have 2 (or possibly 3) losses already this year. Thank God for Stover. But even a solid Stover would not help today.

We need some drastic changes if we are going to make the playoffs. Its early though...

[Sephy]

1st, Willis for 5.
2nd and 5, complete to Heap for 3.
3rd and 2, complete to Mason for 5 and a first.

[Sephy]

1st, from the 33, Willis for 3. No urgency here.
2nd and 7, McNair escapes a free blitzer on the sack, and guns it downfield to an open D-Will. Good gain!

[Sports Steve]

Anyone wished we would have kept Derek Anderson ?????


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[drjcc]

No

[camdenyard]

If you don't think that being mentally prepared to take it to an inferior opponent means something, you don't understand football.

[Sephy]

1st from the Browns 47, McNair was looking downfield forever, then takes off for 2.
Boller is warming on the sidelines.
2nd and 8, ball thrown too far outside for Mason. McNair looks extra gimpy now.
3rd and 8, Browns jump offside.
3rd and 3, incomplete for Musa back at the LOS.
Ravens will go for it.

[Sephy]

4th and 3, Wilcox DROPS the pass. Turnover on downs.

Game over.

[Sports Steve]

Well the 3rd quarter is over.

[StingerNLG]

McNair has to be coming out now. There is a good reason they forced him into Shotgun that series.

He is inneffective as our Quarterback. I'm sorry, but enough is enough. Enough of this trotting out a half-injured McNair every week and hoping he doesn't get hurt more.

And I feel bad for Boller because he is possibly coming into the game in an almost no win situation.

[drjcc]

Thank you condescendingyard knower of all things football

[Brandon]

Anyone wished we would have kept Derek Anderson ?????


:jester: :jester:

No, and not as a starting QB for this team. Obviously, Cleveland doesn't think too highly of him either if they trade up for Brady Quinn

[RockyMRaven]

I don't know if anyone else sees this, but it looks to me as if the offense has absolutely no sense of urgency. Watching them on that last drive, you would think that the score was 27-6 in our favor, not the other way.

[Beerracuda]

Have we even tried to stretch the defense by throwing downfield once today?

Not that it matters though. Cuz it looks like this team thought it could just roll their helmets onto the field and get a win.

Like I said before, NO excuse!!!

[Sports Steve]

Did we even have a sack today? Don't thinks so.


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[camdenyard]

Thank you condescendingyard knower of all things football

No, not all things. But the most freaking obvious shit, I have a pretty good handle on. Sorry you don't.

Or are you saying that Cleveland is 27-6 better than the Ravens? This isn't the goddamn New England Patriots we're getting slapped around by.

[RockyMRaven]

Have we even tried to stretch the defense by throwing downfield once today?

Not that it matters though. Cuz it looks like this team thought it could just roll their helmets onto the field and get a win.

Like I said before, NO excuse!!!

We can't stretch the defense by throwing downfield because McNair CAN'T throw downfield with the bad groin.

[Sports Steve]

We can't stretch the defense by throwing downfield because McNair CAN'T throw downfield with the bad groin.

Then McNair should tell Billick so Boller can come in.

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[drjcc]

How do you know I don't? I am giving a realistic opinion that differs from yours. Cleveland is not the Browns from 7 years ago. The Ravens are not playing well and I do not believe it exists solely from lack of preparation. The Browns are trying too.

I am not questioning you I just disagree with your opinion and yet you must try to devalue me as a poster. I don't get it.

[RockyMRaven]

Then McNair should tell Billick so Boller can come in.

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You might laugh when you say that, but you're absolutely right. He's hurting, and he's hurting the team. He should admit that. If Billick takes him out and Kyle doesn't do well, imagine the vitriol that will rain down on his head. If he leaves him in, well, there is plenty of vitriol to go around for that too.

[Beerracuda]

Then McNair should tell Billick so Boller can come in.

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I totally agree. As just about every one of us has said in the past, throwing downfield will open up the short passes as well as the running game. And while McNair should know that, and let the coach know, it's just as much Billick's fault for not seeing it.

Hell, if we're all seeing it here from our couches, why can't Billick see it?

[Sports Steve]

You might laugh when you say that, but you're absolutely right. He's hurting, and he's hurting the team. He should admit that. If Billick takes him out and Kyle doesn't do well, imagine the vitriol that will rain down on his head. If he leaves him in, well, there is plenty of vitriol to go around for that too.

We need to change things. I wouldn't blame Boller. He's not coming in with everything even. The kid deserves a shot. I'm just saying if Steve McNair is hurting that bad get out and rest the injury. After all if verything stays the same we will be a 500 team.

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[ladyraven127]

You know what . . . we suck so bad that it's almost to the point of ridiculous. I feel a hysterical laughing fit coming on. :bag:

[Sephy]

Heap's hurt. Wilcox is hurt. Down to Quinn Sypniewski at TE.

[Beerracuda]

Another question: Why are we even bothering with the play-action when we're down 21 points in the 4th qtr? What, someone might get fooled? Hardly!!!

[Sports Steve]

You know what . . . we suck so bad that it's almost to the point of ridiculous. I feel a hysterical laughing fit coming on. :bag:

Please take the bag off.

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[Big Bird]

Compare this season to last when Billick was making all the Offensive calls. It doesn't look too good so far. His butt may be in trouble with our fed up owner.

[drjcc]

Our owner is fed up? Where did you hear that?

[Sephy]

Sypniewski TD! 7 minutes left. Let's get a stand, D, and see what we can do.

[Beerracuda]

Garbage time TD. Makes McNair's stats look somewhat respectable.

sheeeesh!

[RockyMRaven]

Finally! But what took the offense so long??? There's just not enough time to come back now. McNair looked much better on that drive, though.

[Sephy]

27-13 Browns.

[StingerNLG]

Wow. Miracles never cease. A nice drive too. I'm guessing McNair felt he was about to get pulled.

Now the D needs to stop the Browns here and get the offense back on the field.

[Sports Steve]

GO DEFENSE,

DEFENSE<DEFENSE<DEFENSE

Let me hear you all


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[Merlin]

an ongoing failure of imagination

no no-huddle
no on-side kick
no sense of urgency

just a walk in lala land

unbelievable :grbac:

[RockyMRaven]

No sense of urgency???Is that the QB,, coach,,or the great cuzoo

HUH?

[Beerracuda]

GO DEFENSE,

DEFENSE<DEFENSE<DEFENSE

Let me hear you all


:jester: :jester:

It's not that I don't have faith, but this team has shown me nothing in 3 1/2 quarters today. They finally get a TD with 7 minutes left. Now Cleveland has the ball and will run off about 3 minutes, providing we stop them. That leaves 4 minutes to get 2 TDs, something that it took them 3 1/2 quarters to do.

[camdenyard]

I agree. I think we needed an onside kick there.

[Merlin]

i have a question for folks

sypniewski ran out of bounds on the last offensive set -- and the clock started again before we hiked it . . . has there been a change of rules or is the clock official conspiring against us too?

[StingerNLG]

This will be interesting. I am not feeling really positive right now......

BUT

The Ravens are only 2 TD's down with 5 minutes. If somehow they can strike quickly, and then the defense can hold the Browns, we have an outside shot of tying this game.

[pyite32]

So glad that the team gave Billick that extension...

We will be lucky to be 8-8 this year

[drjcc]

I think the clock gets started after the ball is spotted at the line until the last 4 minutes of 2nd and 4th

[pyite32]

This will be interesting. I am not feeling really positive right now......

BUT

The Ravens are only 2 TD's down with 5 minutes. If somehow they can strike quickly, and then the defense can hold the Browns, we have an outside shot of tying this game.

What are you smoking Stinger?

[Beerracuda]

i have a question for folks

sypniewski ran out of bounds on the last offensive set -- and the clock started again before we hiked it . . . has there been a change of rules or is the clock official conspiring against us too?


The clock stops on out of bounds plays only when there's 5 minutes left in the game. All other times, the clock restarts when the ball is placed by the officials.

[camdenyard]

What happened to Heap?

[ladyraven127]

"What are you smoking Stinger?"

Can I have some?

:bag:

[Merlin]

thanks for the answer

perhaps boller should come in and throw it 40 yards>

[RockyMRaven]

You know...that little green guy on the flintstones....maybe its his fault because we know it cant be Billicks

Trying to make fun of me is not going to change the fact that, although you can place some blame on Billick, there's plenty of blame to go around. The only reason I reply to some of these completely anti-Billick posts is to try to provide some sort of balance to the conversation. If I come across as being a Billick apologist, then so be it. You come across as a not always reasonable Billick-hater.

[StingerNLG]

What are you smoking Stinger?

Well, after watching that last drive, I don't know.

[StingerNLG]

Make fun of you???? Billick sucks at play calling, personnel decisions, clock management:grbac:

And didn't Billick make national headlines last week by saying he would not hesitate to use Boller again if he felt he needed to?

So, did he think we didn't need to today????

[RockyMRaven]

Make fun of you???? Billick sucks at play calling, personnel decisions, clock management:grbac:

Your opinion is not the only one that matters. You are, of course, entitled to it. I'm not going to argue with you any more. It's a waste of time.

[pyite32]

Since 15 yard penalties don't matter anymore, I wish someone would step on Jamal's neck. HARD!!!!

[camdenyard]

Jamal didn't beat us today.

[drjcc]

Yes you are correct

[pyite32]

Jamal didn't beat us today.

I don't care, he is still an A-hole.

This just in...

The Ravens just blew the entire season. 0-2 in the division, we have no hope of making the playoffs.

Thanks billick, for bringing in an completely unprepared team.

[highwater]

What a train wreck of a game -- it seemed like everything that could go wrong, did go wrong. Penalties, turnovers, blown coverages . . . yeesh.

It's only one game, but seriously, what a disaster.