GAME THREAD - Ravens/Bengals II

[Sephy]

please don't suck please don't suck please don't suck please don't suck please don't suck please don't suck

This goes for any number of players on the team, and the coach. I'll be here either way!

[Dont Know]

:iagree:

but....

Look at the inactives for the game! :eek:

Baltimore Ravens
10 Troy Smith 3rd QB
16 Yamon Figurs WR/RS
21 Chris McAlister CB
22 Samari Rolle CB
24 David Pittman CB
42 Gerome Sapp S
71 Jared Gaither T
83 Daniel Wilcox TE

Cincinnati Bengals
3 Jeff Rowe 3rd QB
44 Herana-Daze Jones S
56 Anthony Schlegel LB
65 Dan Santucci C
71 Willie Anderson T
82 Reggie Kelly TE
97 John Thornton DT

[StingerNLG]

Stinger, checking in from 515. I'll post when I can. Wife is with me so lord knows what she'll let me do.

[Sephy]

Reed IS playing.

3rd and 4 around the 40, Ivy defends the pass for Johnson.

[Sephy]

Ross back to return, no fair catch which is probably dumb, but he gets a nice return and gets to the 31.

[Sephy]

1st down, complete to Clayton for 9.
2nd and 1, McGahee gets a huge hole and goes to the Bengal 48.

[Sephy]

1st, McGahee up the middle for about 4.
2nd and 6, PA, slant to Clayton incomplete.

[Sephy]

3rd and 6, pass thrown low and incomplete for Clayton. Not a good series for McNair or Billick there.

[Sephy]

Punt BARELY gets inside the 20, to about the 19.

[Sephy]

1st, no gain for Rudi, as Ngata is in deep on him,
2nd and 10, ball batted back, and then Gregg kicks the ball like a dumbass. Delay of game penalty.
3rd and 5, Johnson makes an amazing catch at around the 46. Again, more undisciplined shit from this team.

[Sephy]

1st, false start.
1st and 15, complete to Henry, who is WIDE open over the middle, and gets almost 20.

[Sephy]

1st from the Ravens 37, another false start.
1st and 15, Johnson loses 3 on the carry.
2nd and 18, Palmer is being taken down by Ngata, slams into him, he gets it off, but throws it wide.
3rd and 18, screen to Watson, who gets to the 35.

[Sephy]

Bengals going for it.

4th and 7, forced to take a TO, would have taken a delay penalty.

[Beerracuda]

Nice play by Ray..... and Ivy is down

[Sephy]

4th, ball fumbled up, caught by an OLman, gets like a yard. LOL.

And of course, now Ivy is hurt. Who the hell do we even have to play DB anymore?

[Beerracuda]

4th, ball fumbled up, caught by an OLman, gets like a yard. LOL.

And of course, now Ivy is hurt. Who the hell do we even have to play DB anymore?

Might have to bring in a WR to play CB, Seph.

[Dade]

They'll put a jersey on some guy from the crowd. Were down to what like 3 DBs.

[Beerracuda]

Ivy looks like he's ok though... walking around on the sidelines on his own.

[Sephy]

1st from the 41, McGahee for 2-3.
2nd and 8, Willis with a huge burst up the middle, gets exactly 8. First down!

[Sephy]

1st from the 49, very delayed draw for 1 from Willis.
2nd and 9, blitz coming, dump to McClain, gain of about 3.
3rd and 6, blitz coming, complete to Mason, but of course it is 1 yard shy.

[Sephy]

Ravens going for it. And they took so damn long they have to call a TO.

[Beerracuda]

Mason catches the ball with just enough to force a 4th down... unbelievable.

And the Ravens are going for it.... and they waste a timeout wasting time getting the play in.... unreal... nice clock management Billick, you asshole!

[Sephy]

Shotgun? Complete to Heap for 5 or 6, and a first.

[StingerNLG]

Well, so far a respectable showing on the defense! Offense is still slow, but moving now.

[Beerracuda]

This looks like McGahee's game. Now watch Billick shut down the running game.

[Sephy]

1st from the 35, PA, McNair had Geathers on him, he stiff arms him and throws it away.
2nd, give to Willis, another fat hole, gain of 7.
3rd and 3, a freaking TOSS to McGahee to lose like 4 yards. WHAT A SHITTY PLAYCALL. SO BAD.

[Dade]

That throw away pass was the farthest I've seen McNair throw this year!

[Sephy]

4th and 7, Ravens going for it again, goes to the endzone for D-Will, and incomplete with good coverage by O'Neal, but he didn't even look at the ball and that is a guaranteed PI call when we do it.

[Dade]

What Mcnair Went Deep!!!!

[Dade]

4th and 7, Ravens going for it again, goes to the endzone for D-Will, and incomplete with good coverage by O'Neal, but he didn't even look at the ball and that is a guaranteed PI call when we do it.

Thought for a second I was the only one waiting for the flag.

[StingerNLG]

Wow, was that a throw downfield???? I don't know why that wasn't called on 3rd down instead of that dumb run. But hey, McNair actually heaved the ball down there!!!

[Beerracuda]

Jesus H Christ, Billick has no idea when to throw the endzone pass!!! 4th down, and he goes for it all!! WTF?!?!??

How much longer are we forced to live with the lipless wonder?

[Sephy]

1st, Palmer smacked by JJ, and Suggs was covering downfield and couldn't get the underthrown ball.
2nd, Johnson for 3.
3rd and 7, complete to Johnson down to the Ravens 45. Tackled by Gaston. Damn we are deep on the depth chart.

End of the 1st.

[Sephy]

The deep ball was a good throw by McNair, but its questionable on 4th down, and I believe they should have called PI.. C'est la vie. Now our CFL quality DBs are getting killed on 3rd and long.

[Sephy]

1st, PA, Palmer's pass ruled complete at the marker. Defensive holding on Suggs.

[Sephy]

Billick is challenging the catch. LOL. This is a 5 yard challenge. WTF is wrong with you??

[Sephy]

Honestly, even if he gets this (he might, Chad didn't get his toes down it looked like), its 1st and 10 from the 40, and not 1st and 10 from the 35. Really, Brian?

[Beerracuda]

Billick is challenging the catch. LOL. This is a 5 yard challenge. WTF is wrong with you??

You have to ask that question, Seph??? LOL!!

[Sephy]

Ravens win challenge, gain 5 yards.

[Sephy]

1st, swing pass to Chatman for a gain of 5.
2nd and 5, Rudi nailed for a 2 yard loss!
3rd and 7, complete to Johnson who just burns Martin and Landry inside the 20. Landry was playing man, and Martin deep. Neither one doing it well.

[Dade]

why r we challenging. Iwish Iknew the things thjat go through BB's head.

[Beerracuda]

Gotta say though, the Run defense is looking very very good today!

[Sephy]

1st from the 18, double play action to the RB and WR, going to the endzone and Prude deflects the ball down. Nice play. May have prevented Reed from a pick, but oh well!
2nd, Rudi for 1-2.

[Sephy]

Run D was amazing last week too. Too bad the CB's couldn't play for the Overlea pee wee team.
3rd and 8, overthrown for a wide open CJ, off his hands.

[Sephy]

Graham's kick is good. In what may be an insurmountable lead, the Bengals lead 3-0.

[StingerNLG]

What really pisses me off is that once again, the opponent scores first.

We couldn't even score a fucking field goal because our inept offensive coordinator doesn't know how to call plays??

[Beerracuda]

And it's 3-0 Bengals.... and the Ravens are forced to come from behind again.

Not bad though, as I'd gladly give up 3 points to the Bengals offense through 1 1/2 qtrs.

[Sephy]

Bizarre kick is muffed by Ross, who picks it up and gets to the 21.

[Beerracuda]

We couldn't even score a fucking field goal because our inept offensive coordinator doesn't know how to call plays??

Stinger, when you call him an offensive coordinator, you actually make it sound like he actually does SOMETHING!! Tsk Tsk, for shame for shame.

[Beerracuda]

Good god almighty, is Cory Ross the best we have in returns? Hell, put DVD back there.

[Sephy]

1st, Willis up the middle for 5 or 6.
2nd and 5, Willis makes a nice cut for 6 and a first.

[Beerracuda]

And Darling drops the ball.... I take back what I said about putting him back in kick returns.

[Sephy]

1st, McGahee gets no hole, gain of 2.
2nd and 8, dump on the crossing pattern to Darling who drops it. Fairly poor throw too, way outside.
3rd and 8, PA, designed rollout right for McNair, who hits Mason for 10. Nice throw.

[Sephy]

1st from the 44, quick hitter to Clayton, gets 10 and a first. Very nice play!

[Beerracuda]

Nice catch and run by Clayton. 1st down Ravens.

[Sephy]

1st, very delayed handoff, gain of 2 yards for Willis.
Jackson is hurt.

[Beerracuda]

I dare anyone to say that they've seen a more vanilla offense than the Ravens.

And that's including the Teddy ball days!!

[Sephy]

2nd and 8, throw too far outside for Clayton. He was plenty open.
3rd, McNair hit as he throws, Musa catches it, gets 1 yard.

Why does he hold on to the ball for so long?

[Sephy]

1st from the 10, give to the FB for 2 yards.
2nd and 8, pass to Housh for 6.
3rd and 2, Prude blitzes, Watson is wide open for about 10 and a first.

[Sephy]

1st, hurryup on, Watson for 4.
2nd and 6, Housh, wide open again, down to the 45. Flag down after the play. Delay on Housh for throwin the ball away.

[Sephy]

1st from the 41, PA, deep for Henry who burns the entire D down to the 10. Pathetic coverage.

[Beerracuda]

Martin, burnt toast again.... sheeesh

[Dade]

Beautiful play by Reed.

[Beerracuda]

Nice play by Reed at the 1 inch line... illegal motion against Cin called, refused... 4th down
Nice goal line stand for the Ravens

[Sephy]

Martin and Landry both suck really hard.

1st and goal from the 9, give to Watson for 5.
2nd and goal from the 4, Watson gets to the 1.
3rd and goal, Reed hits Watson in the backfield for a loss. Flag down. Illegal formation declined.
4th and goal from the 3, the FG team comes on.

it is good. 6-0 Bengals. Now go get a damn TD!

[Beerracuda]

6-0 Bengals... now that lead IS almost insurmountable.

[Sephy]

Ross almost falls OOB, but gets to the 27. Nice return.

[Beerracuda]

Willis with 11 yards... so far, he's my player of the game

[Sephy]

1st, give to Willis for 11.
1st, they get a snap off before the 2 minute warning, complete to Clayton for 3-4.

[StingerNLG]

I can't believe we could actually go the whole half and not even get INTO the redzone.


Wow.

[4G63]

I can't believe we could actually go the whole half and not even get INTO the redzone.


Wow.

Pitiful isn't it?

[Beerracuda]

I can't believe we could actually go the whole half and not even get INTO the redzone.


Wow.

You find that hard to believe Stinger??? I find it very typical of the Brian Billick offense. No surprises here for me.

[4G63]

I bet McGahee doesn't touch the ball more than 30 times this game.....He's got be averaging 4-5yds a carry!!!

[Sephy]

2nd and 6, 1:57 left, complete to Heap to the Bengals 43.

[Sephy]

1st, complete to Heap again, gain of 7-8.
2nd and 2, goes to the endzone for Darling, flag down. Illegal contact.

[Dade]

See Brain what happens when you throw deep.

[Sephy]

1st from the 31, 1:11 left, complete to Mason for 8. Ravens take a TO with 52s left.

[Beerracuda]

See Brain what happens when you throw deep.

Even those loser announcers were saying that same thing.

[4G63]

McGahee needs to get the ball EVERYTIME!!!!......I don't trust McNair in the RZ!!

[4G63]

Theres no noise....how can you have a false start?

[Sephy]

2nd and 2, false start on Brown.
2nd and 7, complete to Clayton down to the 10!

[Sephy]

1st and goal, caught at the 2 by Clayton. TO taken with 21s left.

[4G63]

Give McGahee the ball......

[4G63]

Spread the d with 3 wideouts and give McGahee the ball....

[Beerracuda]

Couple of nice passes there, but I would NOT have called my last TO there. I would've spiked the ball and saved the TO. That way, you could still use your running game to keep the defense off balance.

[4G63]

Like I said, I don't trust McNair!!!!!!

[Beerracuda]

Intercepted! LMAO!! Thank you Brian. How can I make it up to you?

[Dade]

Omg!!!! Wtf!!!!!! Sob!!!!!

[Sephy]

Actually not goal to go. There's a 1st down at the 1 inch line, not that it matters now.

2nd and around 1 from the 2, ball thrown too early for Heap, who was WIDE open. No one near him!
3rd and 1, lob to Heap picked by Hall. I didn't think his foot was in.

I fucking hate this football team.

[Beerracuda]

And the boos cascade down from the stands, and rightfully so.

[Beerracuda]

Just like I said, when they called that last TO with 21 seconds left, they left themselves vulnerable by ONLY having the passing game to go to.

WTG Brian. See if you can unfuck yourself in the 2nd half.

[4G63]

I'm done posting here.....check my earlier comments to see what they should have done.......

[UKRavenStockers]

Perfect two minute offence (from gamecentre, all I've got to go on) and we get intercepted passing from the 2 yard line. It'd seem Billick has learned nothing from week one, haha.

Laugh or cry situation and I can't be bothered crying.

[Dont Know]

So, will Boller play the second half?

[Beerracuda]

I'm done posting here.....check my earlier comments to see what they should have done.......

Everyone knows what they SHOULD'VE done. Everyone except the master mind offensive guru Billick.

Of course, he always knows better than any of us. After all, we're playing within our "parameters", right?

[Dade]

Why doesn't Billick trust the running game in the redzone?

[Dade]

So, will Boller play the second half?

Probably not McNair has been okay so far.

[Beerracuda]

Very pitiful when you can't score against one of the worst defenses in the league, at home, with so many LBs out for the Bengals.

[Beerracuda]

Probably not McNair has been okay so far.

He's been somewhat erratic, but the fault lies with Billick's playcalling. McNair's certainly doing better than Monday night, but then he should, considering the opposition.

0 points against the Bengals defense in the first half. Inexcusable!!!

[Dont Know]

Probably not McNair has been okay so far.

And yet we have scored 0 points at home against one of the worst defenses in the NFL.

That's just depressing. :grbac:

[StingerNLG]

What do you say after that?? I cannot believe how utterly inept our offense is. The minute you think everything is starting to click, and MAYBE there is a bit of a spark and momentum, reality snatches it away from you and then kicks you in the ballsac for good measure.

Shotgun the entire series at the goalline?? Really??

Sadly, I am not sure there is a real solution anymore.

And its getting cold up here in 515.

Second half in 2:30. I would like to be excited, but there is no evidence of a reason to be.

[Sephy]

I don't disagree with passing, but my issue is with the same bullshit play to Heap they always call. Anyone who's ever seen the Ravens play would know that was coming. I am so sick of Billick is makes me want to puke.

[Beerracuda]

reality snatches it away from you and then kicks you in the ballsac for good measure.

Not to worry, I've been kicked there so many times over the past several years by Billick that I've become a Eunuch.

[Sephy]

KO goes out, ball at the 40.

[Dade]

I don't disagree with passing, but my issue is with the same bullshit play to Heap they always call. Anyone who's ever seen the Ravens play would know that was coming. I am so sick of Billick is makes me want to puke.

So true. Just cause that BS toss play worked like three times last year doesn't mean your going to get away with it everytime. Now what play will Billick call on the 2 yard? Here's a hint jackass RUN!

[Sephy]

1st, Fake handoff to the FB, give to Willis, gain of 2. I don't see why we keep trying this, just bash the freaking ball.
2nd and 8, complete to Mason for 5. Horrible throw, great catch.
3rd and 3, complete to D-Will who gets to near the Bengals 45 and a first.

[Sephy]

1st, PA, McNair had a man coming down on him, complete to Heap at the marker, first down. Both are limping now.

[Dade]

14 rush plays VS 25 pass plays

[Sephy]

1st from the 37, no hole, Willis dances and gets 1.
2nd and 9, pass to Mason dropped. Would have only been a 2 yard gain anyway.
3rd, McNair runs for it, fumbles 3 yards shy, Jackson picks it up and runs it back to around midfield.

Please BENCH MCNAIR.

[Beerracuda]

How is it that I saw that one coming as soon as McNair made his break?

Good god, get Boller in there.

[4G63]

He's DONE...........................PULL THE MOTHERFUCKER........Does he think no one is chasing him?

[Beerracuda]

How appropriate would it be if the Ravens get shutout by the "vaunted" and "feared" Bengals defense?

[Sephy]

1st from the 45, PA, complete to Rudi, gain of 2-3.
2nd and 8, Rudi finds a big hole and gets to the Ravens 37.

[Sephy]

1st, complete to Housh for 6.
2nd and 4, Rudi for 5. Now the rush D is failing.

[StingerNLG]

What was all that shit McNair talked during the week about knowing what he can do, and who are we to question him? Fuck you Steve.

[Sephy]

1st, Palmer's pass deflected incomplete.
2nd, quick throw to Housh who had some room, gets 8.
3rd and 2, complete to Henry on the sideline at the 8. Great catch.

[Sephy]

Billick is challenging. Bad, BAD challenge. There's a TO gone.

[Beerracuda]

way to go Billick... waste your last challenge... What a fucking piece of shit!!

[Dade]

Horrible challenge. For God sake put Kyle in.

[Sephy]

Yup. Lost it.

[Sephy]

1st and goal from the 9, give to Rudi for MAYBE 1.
2nd and goal, ball thrown OOB.
3rd, Palmer complete, but only down to the 5.

[Beerracuda]

that's it Graham, make it a 2 possession game.

[Sephy]

FG good, 9-0.

I wasn't even mad last week cause it was so comical. This week is just fucking pissing me off.

[AZRAVEN]

Who the hell advised him to challenge that, or doesn"t he listen to them either? This is beyond PATHETIC!

[Beerracuda]

FG good, 9-0.

I wasn't even mad last week cause it was so comical. This week is just fucking pissing me off.

Seph, I still think it's comical that an NFL coach like Billick can see things that the rest of us peons can't see. I find that highly insulting.

[Sephy]

Ross to the 28.

[ffeineandsugar]

Just started watching the game. Glad I didn't miss anything too important...:insane:

[RavenTD]

Dear Defense,

We are so sorry to have wasted all your effort during the week.
And your valiant effort with so many injuries this sunday.

Signed

Brian Billick & Steve McNair.

[Sephy]

1st, McNair barely gets the ball off and complete to Clayton through a lot of effort on Mark's part. Gain of 1.
2nd and 9, toss to Willis, gain of 1. Way to eliminate your OL's strength in size.
3rd and 8, holding flag thrown, McNair scrambles and gets no gain.

PLEASE GIVE ME BOLLER AND A NEW COACH NEXT YEAR.

[Beerracuda]

this is going to be one UGLY week on sports talk radio.

Perhaps now, Bisciotti will make his presence known, and take the playcalling away from the lipless wonder.

[UKRavenStockers]

For the Bengals defence and Ravens offence they really should just save themselves some embarassment and trot out some high school units. I'm sure DeMatha could probably put on a better offensive show than us right now with Kenny Tate and Rodney McLeod split wide.

[Dade]

The crowd should starting calling for Boller.

[Dade]

The one good thing to take away from this is our defense is still pretty damn good.

[Sephy]

1st from the 37, give to Rudi who loses 1.
2nd and 10, complete to Housh, gain of 7.
3rd and 3, complete to Housh for 4.

[Sephy]

1st, Watson for a couple.
2nd and 6, complete to the FB, gain of about 15.

[Sephy]

1st from the 35, Watson for 4.
2nd and 6, complete to a wide open CJ at the 19.

This is so pathetic.

[Beerracuda]

There is no fucking excuse for this!!!! NONE whatsoever!!!! A 2-6 team playing in OUR house, against a D that's playing very well, against Cincy's D which has virtually nothing... NOTHING!!!!

I want to hear from any ANY Billick supporters now.

[Sephy]

1st, Rudi for 3.
2nd and 7, Rudi for a half yard.
End of the 3rd.

[UKRavenStockers]

Anyone think Randall Cunningham was calling his own plays in 98 for the Vikes?

No way this can be the same Brian Billick who called the plays there? :confused:

[Sephy]

3rd and 6.5, Palmer fumbles..scrum ensues. Bengals recover. FG is good.

12-0. This is sad. Hold the Bengals to 4 FGs and you can't get a damn point on the board.

[Beerracuda]

Did I just hear that right? "The Bengals have given up a league high average of 30.5 points per game" ?????

And we score ----------- ZERO!!!

[StingerNLG]

Anyone else realize we have only seen Matt Stover 1 time today, and that was the opening kickoff?

Absolutely PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!

And McNair is going back out again. Why do I feel like the game is already over?

[UKRavenStockers]

Not a bad word to say about this defence. Seriously undermanned at the back end, no support at all from the offence, going up against one of the best passing games in the league which just got their slot guy back who is better than most starters in the league and they've not given up a touchdown!!

Pity the offence all can't pull their fingers out against an absolutely terrible defence.

[Sephy]

Ross to the 31.

[Sephy]

1st, McGahee fumbles and Bengals recover. And thanks to Billick, we're out of challenges. Thanks, dipshit.

[Sephy]

1st from the 32, deep for Henry, Prude and Reed had him blanketed.
2nd, Rudi for 6.
3rd, complete to Henry down inside the 20.

He's still a douchebag.

[Beerracuda]

1st, McGahee fumbles and Bengals recover. And thanks to Billick, we're out of challenges. Thanks, dipshit.


And that's exactly what I was bitching about earlier in this thread. Asshole Billick.

[Sephy]

1st and goal from the 9, Rudi for a loss of 3.
2nd and goal from the 12, false start.
2nd and goal from the 17, screen to Watson dropped.
3rd and goal from the 17, thrown way incomplete for Watson.

Graham on again. 15-0.

[UKRavenStockers]

Just let the defence play both ways with McGahee as the HB and run some option. Have Ray lead block, Reed at QB and McGahee at tailback. Be no worse than what we're putting on the field right now.

Heck it'd be more fun than what we're putting out right now, possibly wouldn't be more effective, but who cares, this offence ain't effective.

[Beerracuda]

Ok, I might catch hell for this, but it's obvious that this game is lost. So now I'm hoping for a Bengals shutout, just to shut Billick/McNair the fuck up. So much for us fans not knowing what we're talking about.

[Beerracuda]

What the FUCK?!?!??!
bahahahaha!!!

[ffeineandsugar]

:thumbdown: :thumbdown: Anyone got a fork? Anyone ready to stick it?:thumbdown: :thumbdown:

[Dade]

This game was over when Steve threw the pick. Did anyone really think we would go down the field again.

[Beerracuda]

:thumbdown: :thumbdown: Anyone got a fork? Anyone ready to stick it?:thumbdown: :thumbdown:

I'd like to stick it right up Billick's ass!!!!! No Lube either!!

now, 18-0!!! WOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

[Dont Know]

I am ..... flabergasted ... I think ... I mean ... I knew we were bad, but this bad?

Well, except the D and in particular the red zone D.

[StingerNLG]

My wife just got up and left. So I guess we are going home. What a pathetic team we have.

Just fucking pathetic.

[Beerracuda]

I see a garbage time TD coming up for the Ravens. That way, Billick and McNair can keep flapping their gums for another week.

[Beerracuda]

Bahahahahahah!!! Fumble Mcnair!!!!!!! Lmfao!!!

[Sephy]

Fuck you McNair. Fuck you Billick. Get the fuck out of my city the both of you.

[Dont Know]

What's next after flabergasted? Shellshocked?

[Beerracuda]

Yeah McNair, I've never played QB, as you've told me this week. But I Think I can spot a piece of shit when I see one.

[Beerracuda]

Fuck you McNair. Fuck you Billick. Get the fuck out of my city the both of you.

AMEN, Sephy!!! A-FUCKING-MEN!!!!

[phatboy]

this is the fucin bottom.
I have never seen anything this bad.
Mcnair is shit

[Dade]

I'm completely speechless.

[Beerracuda]

oh, NOW he's warming up Boller on the sidelines!


BILLICK, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT!!!! like Sephy said: GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY CITY, YOU FUCKING DOUCHE BAG!!!

[4G63]

Wow.....I mean WOW!!! Can we get any worse!!!!

[StingerNLG]

And now Boller's coming in, once again 2 quarters to late.

Say what you want, Boller NEVER EVER played like this. Ever EVER.

[4G63]

And now Boller's coming in, once again 2 quarters to late.

Say what you want, Boller NEVER EVER played like this. Ever EVER.

Even TEX would agree......

[UKRavenStockers]

Thanks for 13-3 and divisional title Steve, but seriously, get outta here.

[UKRavenStockers]

Even TEX would agree......

I think you're getting carried away with that statement. :laugh:

[UKRavenStockers]

Sephy, can we suit up Napleon Dynamite at QB when the Terps are done with Florida State and NC State?

[ExiledRaven]

I think you're getting carried away with that statement. :laugh:

I don't think Tex would disagree. I think he'd disagree if you talked about Boller as someone that you want as the long term solution to McNair.

This game illustrates the need for new blood at head coach and at quarterback of the future.

[Dade]

I had brought a McNair jersey last season. Now I'm putting that shit up on Ebay, hell I might just throw it away.

[UKRavenStockers]

Hope everyone at the stadium enjoyed their day at the circus.

[UKRavenStockers]

I had brought a McNair jersey last season. Now I'm putting that shit up on Ebay, hell I might just throw it away.

I bought one too, I'm certain it's cursed, wonder whether I can get a pittance for it?

Heck, might keep it in reserve and change name plate on the shoulder if we ever get a competent #9 in.

[Mr.Boh]

thank god i'm a packers fan too.

[Beerracuda]

Down by 3 TDs, and we're throwing screens..... UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!!!


And they finally complete a downfield pass. Sorry Billick, too little, too late. GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY TOWN!!

[Dont Know]

Run it in, just to prove we actually know how to do it.

[Dade]

I like how we throw Boller in with no chance of winning. That's how you treat Kyle, who has put up with all the shit from us fans and been nothing but loyal to this organization. Thats how you do it Brian.

[Beerracuda]

What I said earlier in the thread.... they'll get a garbage time TD.

This team is SO predictable

[UKRavenStockers]

Rushing TD in the redzone! :eek:


Maybe those pages of Billick's playbook were stuck together?

[Mr.Boh]

What I said earlier in the thread.... they'll get a garbage time TD.

This team is SO predictable

I'm pissed too, but in all fairness, what do you want them to do? Forfeit?

[Dont Know]

So we can score running touchdowns from the 1.

Too bad we are throwing out of the shoutgun from the 2 and beyond....

Guess that extra yard is an insurmountable running obstacle .... :grbac:

[UKRavenStockers]

We've scored more touchdowns than the Bengals! :D

[purple bird]

Actually, Boller has pitched a stinker that was much worse than this appears to be - Denver in 2005. Kicked the ball out of his own hands while running unscathed by an opposing defender.

[Mr.Boh]

At least that guy yelling is entertaining.

[RavenTD]

I think we could do better with this guy at coach or QB.

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/Mptv/1207/2580_0006.jpg

[purple bird]

What does the "film" guy (srory but I am new to this blog but I have read some of his stuff and it seems like valuable insight) see when McNair is in there? Is it all McNair that is causing this, is McNair not to blame for anything and it is simply the other offensive players not doing their job, or is the scheme putting both McNair and the rest of the offense in a bad position and screwing evreyone over?

[Ravenfan_11]

I heard Aubrey Huff was signed to the practice squad as our next QB.

[purple bird]

Are there different playbooks for McNair and Boller and if so, why?

[Dade]

What does the "film" guy (srory but I am new to this blog but I have read some of his stuff and it seems like valuable insight) see when McNair is in there? Is it all McNair that is causing this, is McNair not to blame for anything and it is simply the other offensive players not doing their job, or is the scheme putting both McNair and the rest of the offense in a bad position and screwing evreyone over?

It really is McNair's age and Billick's ego that hurts the offense.

[Beerracuda]

Purple Bird,

First off, welcome to the board.

To answer your question, the fault no doubt relies mostly on Brian Billick and his pathetic offensive schemes. McNair though, has plenty of blame, since he can't throw worth a shit anymore. Which now leads me back to Billick, since it was he who insisted on keeping a QB at the starting position, when all of us fans knew he was washed up.

[purple bird]

When was the last game that "Film" did a technical study of the offense? I would like to read it for my own educational puposes.

[StingerNLG]

Sorry purplebird, this and the Pittsburgh game were MUCH worse than the Denver game.

[purple bird]

I must admit, despite however much crap I will get, that I do subscribe to the "Brian Billick's fault theory" more than McNair showing his age. I am not going to say I am correct when I am not however, which is why I would like to see what the film guy has to say. You guys who say it is just that McNair is old combined with Billick are probably right, but the thorough breakdown would be much more reassuring before throwing anyone under the bus.
If the same playbook and plays are being called for both Boller and McNair, then McNair definitely has to go.

My opinion, which I am opening up to all logical criticism, is that he (McNair) hasn't thrown the longball because the plays Billick tells him to run do not put the recievers in longball position. The result of continually calling these plays and playing an extremely predictable passing ball control offense allows opposing defenses to look like the 2000 Ravens defense causing turnovers left and right as they know every play before it is called.

That being said, I don't actually think Billick is as "Mr. pro Steve Mcnair" as some people on this board have said, but I do believe he knows some very vocal players would mutiny (read Ray Lewis if McNair were removed for Kyle Boller). Of course it doesn't matter whol Billick really wants if his playcalling is destroying the offense more than any one individual's performance.

[HoustonRaven]

I must admit, despite however much crap I will get, that I do subscribe to the "Brian Billick's fault theory" more than McNair showing his age. I am not going to say I am correct when I am not however, which is why I would like to see what the film guy has to say. You guys who say it is just that McNair is old combined with Billick are probably right, but the thorough breakdown would be much more reassuring before throwing anyone under the bus.
If the same playbook and plays are being called for both Boller and McNair, then McNair definitely has to go.

My opinion, which I am opening up to all logical criticism, is that he (McNair) hasn't thrown the longball because the plays Billick tells him to run do not put the recievers in longball position. The result of continually calling these plays and playing an extremely predictable passing ball control offense allows opposing defenses to look like the 2000 Ravens defense causing turnovers left and right as they know every play before it is called.

That being said, I don't actually think Billick is as "Mr. pro Steve Mcnair" as some people on this board have said, but I do believe he knows some very vocal players would mutiny (read Ray Lewis if McNair were removed for Kyle Boller). Of course it doesn't matter whol Billick really wants if his playcalling is destroying the offense more than any one individual's performance.

Maybe you turn off the TV right after the loss but stick around sometime and listen to the analysts ....

By a huge margin, they all say he same thing -- McNair is done! He dirts 5 yard check downs, has happy feat in the pocket and has only TWO throws past 20 yards ALL SEASON! Oh, and he leads the league in fumbles.

On to Billick, this team is the most penalized in league. The execute poorly and have not been the least bit prepared for any game this season.

To sum both up, they BOTH have to go!

[purple bird]

Stinky,
I do and have listened to the "analysts" and what they have to say, but not necessarily to form my opinion. Those guys see the teams once every 3 or four weeks and have to briefly look at what happened each game for every team and form a quick opinion. Their opinions (national analysts) are based really on what they have heard those more familiar with the team, such as local beat writers, say about the team. The analysts (again national analysts)know as much about the Ravens as we do, even less so. I really don't put much into their opinion.
I couldn't agree more, however, that either Billick or McNair is to blame and has to go for stinking things up this bad, but I am not sure who it is. If you tell me x + y = 7 and ask me what y is, I cannot tell you the answer as there are 3 pieces to the puzzle and two of them are unknown. The analogy I am trying to draw is that we know one piece to a three part puzzle - the offense is a joke. The other two parts, McNair and Billick's part in making the offense what it is, are what I see as being unknown with the amount of access we as outsiders have to the information necessary to come to a logical conclusion about this.

I do not like the fact that my posts are starting to sound like a Billick postgame press conference!!

Thanks for the reply though

[purple bird]

As an aside from the discussion from today's game, does anyone know what the status of Jack del Rio is with the Jaguars? I believe last year many were saying he was on the outs with the ownership there and the team was even on the outs with the city of Jacksonville. I am doubting, given the current success of the Jaguars, that del Rio would probably be free after this season, but has anyone heard anything more about the status of that team and its' head coach?